Update! This post will tell you how to use WordPress and Joomla together for better SEO results. If you are looking for some ideas on how to choose between the two, you could read the Page How to choose between WordPress and Joomla!
If you look at these Opensource Content management systems, then people use them for Blogging and Building websites.
Joomla
Now Joomla with al its extensions is great for building a good solid website with all the features you want. And you can bring it to high rankings in the search eninges as well, if you start with the proper technical improvements.
Templates in Joomla make it easy to get a good layout for the site, and you can find lots of good free Joomla templates. For a good business website I suggest you look for a good commercial template based on a Table less design with external css files.
WordPress
For Blogging you cannot beat WordPress, especially if you do the right setup, making the permalinks work right the .htaccess file and set the options to /%postname%/. Creating posts and giving it the special keyword tags is really easy.
Templates for WordPress are also very easy to obtain and to implement. Besides that…Google loves WordPress Blogs
My advice?
Use them both!!
Setup your main site in Joomla! and start working on the content, create good quality content.
In a sub directory, or a subdomain, install WordPress and start blogging, using the keywords you also use for your website.
WordPress with its create SEF functions and categories will bring you traffic, this traffic reflects to your main domain.
And with the content on your main website, you work to keep your visitors captured and make them come back.
Yes, I know there is a great Component to integrate WordPress in Joomla from j-prosolution.com (Site is no longer available, but a great replacement can be Found on http://www.joomlify.com/) and I use it also on my website www.pathos-seo.com And if that is not enough, they even use it for the news via blogs on http://www.joomla.org/ !!
Still I like the separate installation better, because there are more features I can use for Search Engine Marketing and Viral marketing.
In my short experience with combining them that the combination of Joomla and WordPress are a killer combination for getting High Search Engine Ranking!
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I don’t think I agree here :). I started out with the WP port but it was so clunky. I ended up building my blog from scratch and default Joomla:
http://www.compassdesigns.net/joomla-blog/joomla-reviews/why-you-want-to-use-joomla-instead-of-wordpress.html
Hello Barrie,
Although the WP Port can have some odd behavior at sometimes, I still think its better then the default Joomla Blog Functionality.
And Before I started with the combination of Joomla and a separate WordPress Blog, I have read your post several times.
And sometimes go back to see how it evolves.
But for me, the WordPress installations I use are also SEO Optimized and rank very well in the Search engines.
And I love WordPress for Blogging, but I think Joomla is easier and better as a Content Management System.
So I use the Blog to get the rankings and that pulls my Joomla sites to the top as well.
Af course they have to be Optimized for SEO as well.
Great! I’m building a new site with more diverse content that I probably won’t be able to organize with WP. I want to provide a database of products/shopping cart, news section, and “lessons” section aside from the blog. I can do that with Joomla right?
I’ll also put up an Advice section with different columnists probably with WP.
I’m worried though if installing both Joomla and WP may eat up the memory?
That’s going to be 1 unified design but separate coding for Joomla and WP, right?
@Marie
Your memory question is of course depending on how much space you are allowed to use from you provider.
But I think you won’t have any problems with that.
If its an Internal memory issue, there is not much overhead from both systems.
If it should create a cpu overload problem, you can use Cache functions in Both WP and Joomla to tackle that.
I have had no problems running them both at the same time… otherwise you would not be reading this.
As for the Design, I guess you could make it look very much the same, but I prefer to use the Blog totally seperate form the Site, as you might see here.
Now its possible to Blog with Joomla as well, but is difficult to setup and you miss the easy way WordPress handles trackbacks and comments.
For your content questions, yes all these can be done with Joomla and the Virtuemart component.
j-proslution.com link is not working as the author has stopped supporting it.If anyone has got that download,please email it to:
bramptonstud (at) gmail.com
Would appreciate that.
Thanks
@Mick
Here is some more information and the Download links for Opensef
http://www.pathos-seo.com/joomla-seo-blog/where-to-download-opensef.html
I checked this URL it’s not working properly http://projects.j-prosolution.com/en/projects/os-projects/project-openwp.html
@Madhu
I have to change te URL since J-prosolution does not work anymore.. some spammer got the domain name now.
Bit if you are looking for WP Integrated in Joomla, there is a new component build on OpenWP called MojoBlog.
http://www.joomlify.com/component/option,com_versions/Itemid,48/
I have downloaded it and installled and will be testing it on one of my domains.
I hope to have a review on http://www.hummerbie.com by the end of this week, but it is looking good!!
Thanks for the nice article. I am new to joomla but run several wordpress blogs.
Which leads to my question: Since joomla is good for the website and wordpress for the blog, is there a way to make the design consistent.
One problem that I have is that my blog templates don’t match my web templates.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance,
Richard
@Live Your Way: You should check out http://www.redevolution.com/downloads/ they have some WordPress themes and Joomla themes that match in the best possible way.
The only thing you then need to do is create categories and menu links to them to reflect either your Joomla site, or match your WordPress blog.
This simple means you must mimic the sidebars to create a similar view for your visitors on both Joomla and WordPress
Interesting Comparison, I have only ever used Wordpress as i have never had a large demand for multiple users for different areas. However, it is good to keep in mind for the future.
I just have a few questions:
Is it easy to install?
Can you integrate E-commerce into it?
I am very interested to find out more about it.
Hi all… I’m re-building my old website about astronomy at http://www.aeroastro.eu, but I couldn’t decide between joomla or wordpress… I like the wp more, but I need also some more functionality… now I see that it is better to combine it… :-)
@Web D Dubai: WordPress is very easy to install, can be done in 5 minutes:http://codex.wordpress.org/Installing_WordPress
And yes, there is a special ecommerce plugin which is also pretty easy to implement, but is not as widely applicable as Virtuemart for Joomla.
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-e-commerce/
@Joe: Seem you have a real problem with http://www.aeroastro.eu/ as there is no content to be seen and your Menu links don’t work at this moment.
You might be better of going back to WordPress and look at some plugins for the functionality you need.
Otherwise if you want to stay on Joomla!, which is great as well, try to switch of the SEF Urls until you have fixed your .htaccess problem as it seems that is your problem.
Check out my page on this matter on http://www.pathos-seo.com/joomla-seo-optimization/joomla-seo-and-htaccess-files.html
Hummerbie: yes, there is no content visible at the moment, because I have just set up the joomla and my content I have only on my disk, so its unpublished… at present I am re-building the design’s source code, soon I will add all the content… the first version of my website was written in html+php, and user’s sections were all in wordpress… it was not so flexible as I needed, so I decided to switch into Joomla! But the blog section I want the whole create in wordpress. I think that the wordpress is the best text publishing system, because it is very stable. There is also one SEO pack for new wordpress edition, which really love search engines. The combination with joomla will bring very good ranking in search engines. I have already tryed it on my other website.
I’ve been racking my brain over this for a while because my friend and i wanted to start a unique blog. With joomla, i can obviously make the site appear alot cooler looking and unique for a blog site. I can also have much simpler control over what goes on pages and better css control over modules without having to deal with tons of static php pages. However, i’ve been seriously considering selling out for the sole fact that wordpress is simply better for being part of the blogosphere. There are so many blogosphere opportunities to get traffic to your site when you run wordpress.
After racking my brain and researching solutions for my joomla installation i’ve finally set my mind on sticking to joomla. I’ve had to work to figure out how to optimize it as much as possible to be a part of the blogosphere and finally got it submitted to technorati which is the main perk i think. I’m now happy with choosing joomla for our blogging platform.
@Adam: Site is looking good, nice template and layout. But you need to check your page loading time, it takes a long time to load and is heavy on javascript.
You can check what is going wrong on http://www.octagate.com/service/SiteTimer/ and you see what you need to fix.
Only thing I am missing when blogging with Joomla! are trackbacks to posts. You can overcome that if you check you stats and see where people are coming from and then include that in a url below the article.
Thank you very much for the information, is a good idea to includ a blog inside my joomla website will give more charm to the website and will make me use the powerfull sides of both joomla and wordpress, actually i made an error when i did build my joomla website, when i diden`t active it to be a SEO Freindly website, you have any idea how to do it now ? because i can not active now the content of the website is too big and will loose all the external links will give the message 404 so will not be valid any more, you have any idea how to resolve this issue ?
thanks in advance
I have worked with Joomla from 3 years ago with different SEO plugins (SEFAdvance, 404SEF,…) and I had excellent results, now I’m thinking in make blogging with joomla with mojoblog or myblog from jj. I’ll follow your advice and installing wp independent for testing results. Thanks.
That’s awesome! Thanks for your help!
Heyyy …. I have been using wordpress for quite a while now and have been designing themes and developing plugins for wordpress. Is it as easy to design theme and plugins for joomla as it is for wp ?. I have a personal website with picture albums and a blog, what do you recommend ? WP or Joomla ?
@Nick: No, Joomla will definitly take more effort to Design Templates as you need to learn the API to get the best out of templates. The installation process is also different using xml files. You could use a tools like Artisteer to get you started. Plugins like in WordPress are harder to do, in most cases you need a component, module or plugin to do what you can accomplisch in WordPress with a single plugin.
For example, I you case you might use Nextgen Gallery for you Picture Albums in WordPress. For Joomla you could use any other Photo Gallery
Looking at the information you gave I would suggest you stick with WordPress as it is the best software for Blogging and you can use WordPress as CMS as well.
The big difference between the two is the Framework on which it is build, Joomla is build to be a CMS as WordPress is build from the start for blogging so both are catering to different users. Joomla! has a lot build in features where you have to build up a WordPress CMS with Plugins that you need for a specific function.